MINUTES
December 4-6, 2007
San Diego, California
Note: Powerpoint presentations referenced in these minutes may be accessed on the Council’s website at http://acwi.gov/monitoring/ppt/sandiego_1207/. Attachments referenced in these notes are available in hard copy by request only.
DECEMBER 4 - YSI/SONTEK
Group Introductions
Welcome by Chris Ward, Sales and Marketing Director, welcomed the group to YSI. Gail Mallard and Chuck Spooner greeted attendees and group introductions were made.
YSI/SONTEK
Presentation on YSI was given by Chris Ward, who previously worked for NOAA on tides and currents. YSI does all research and development (R&D) and applications in house. Global ecosystem interest of company. Instrumentation focused on measuring and monitoring (outside the lab and treatment plants) the environments. USDA funds some small business grants. They outsource some manufacturing to other locations. They employ water-quality specialists and surface-water hydrologists to help with R&D and testing. Complete monitoring sensors have been a big seller and business is up 20% in 2007. There are numerous water-quality applications – dredging, lakes, run-off, reservoirs, aquaculture, river sampling, and waste water. Instruments can be used for acoustic river flow, irrigation monitoring, flood monitoring, and discharge measurements. Oceanographic monitoring includes surf-zone studies and also ship mounted, moored, shore and bottom mounted instruments for water current information among others. New products include profiling buoy and EcoMapper AUV (underwater robot with water-quality sensor). Other new products include SL Package for bank measurements of river velocity, it is a side-looking Doppler flow meter with a smaller size and weight. New software includes FlowPack-Velocity-Index rating software, developed in collaboration with University of Illinois. There is a new Smart quality control flow tracker, acoustic way of doing same thing as pygmy meter to measure discharge with intelligent design built into instrument to prevent collection of “bad” data. Have several communication options and can even store data for users/clients. There are sensors for nutrient monitoring. They can download SmartQC package to some existing equipment. Virginia Tech wants to start an outdoor water-quality lab for teaching and monitoring. Company recognizes the need for software development to be user-friendly.
NEW MEMBER UPDATE
Jeff Ostermiller, Utah Division of Water Quality, gave presention. Jeff is a new member from Region 8. Jeff is a stream ecologist by training; developed first IIVPACS models for bio assessments. Jeff developed a bio assessment program for State of Utah. Jeff lead monitoring section for Utah, helping to bring in new methods and ideas to this section. Developed a multi-metric index. State of Utah has extreme environmental gradients and geological drivers in state, so some of these measures were not working.
Update from Members on new activities and products
CALIFORNIA PROGRAMS.
Chuck Spooner asked if there other similar associations. Brosseau stated that Florida is more like California now but still more advocacy based. Washington State is interested in establishing a similar association. Strong need to network and learn from each other. National level has a group, but it is a lobbying group with less research and monitoring projects.
Eric Vowinkle commented that this is a great example of how Council and State can evolve together (this is a performance measure for the NWQMC). Leslie McGeorge commends formal communications strategy. How to communicate legistration that is public friendly? Connor said they are looking to partner agencies for help and giving information to public at a lay-level. Legislator responded to external program review. Data management needs improvement.
State Water Quality Assessment Procedures
Question from Gail Mallard - Where do organic chemicals come out (pesticides to be specific)? Answer - there is no criteria and we find these mostly in fish tissue and sediment. Also, analyses are expensive.
Question: What is commonly reported in terms of measurement of river/stream miles or segments? Do we need info to characterize whole watershed? Answer: most States are reporting on miles.
Question: How many States have credible data laws that play into this process? States emerge from court orders. States may have policies with implementation plans (ex: Utah and NJ).
Recommendations:
Publish minimum data requirements and what are QA/QC requirements, States need to publish how States can meet this for waterbodies, and guidance needed on how to deal with non-detects and outliers, give raw data.
Integrate monitoring with assessments, need long-term commitment to state base-line monitoring and also for 303d and 305b. Need biocriteria development since more States are doing bio monitoring. Need info on why they are monitoring.
Develop standardized data extrapolation techniques in determining assessment units. Georeferencing data is important to determine if locations are the same (from various studies) and to link to other data sets (ex: USGS trends data).
Develop numeric water-quality criteria to reduce disputes in assessment results.
Advocate using stats approach instead of simple counts, for quantitative measure.
Question: what about probabilistic surveys? Answer: they did address this in terms of who is doing it and for what purpose.
Question: what is next? Answer: WERF is stakeholder driven and need to satisfy that community. Webinar with many participants from States. Consider recommendation chapter of report as a self-standing recommendation.
To get an extra copy of report—can order a bound copy for around $65, or become a subscriber and get report for free. To request a pdf version of report, contact Lindsay at lgriffith@brwncald.com.
Tony Shaw, indicated that Pennsylvania is contracting with Nature Conservancy. Has a small water-quality monitoring program. Water bottling companies are buying lands with naturally occurring springs for good-quality sources for commercial distribution of bottled water (example: Deer Park label, 200,000 gallons per day). Good for the economy and important to recognize water quality. Standards set-up for bottled water industry to follow.
Curtis Cude, called in via conference line about Water Quality Exchange Conference in Austin recently. Tools which EPA and others have now for getting data in and out of exchange. Nate Booth demonstrated USGS/NWIS tool that will be open to public. Dwane Young showed how an excel spreadsheet can be used to get data, specify the HUC. Folks should be able to collaborate more now between agencies. Region 8 tribes have been strong STORET users in the past. Peer training network with Tribes is a good concept which can go to councils and other groups. STORET group developing geo-referencing tools and link to national hydro data (NHD) set. Also offering a geospatial QA/QC system (example: detect when station data may be “bad” and return and error back). CUHASI gave presentation on how they scrape data from many providers.
TOUR OF FACILITIES OF YSI/SONTEK
Chris Ward led tour of facilities that was excellent.
WORK GROUP MEETINGS - DECEMBER 4
Collaboration and Outreach Work Group and the Water Information Strategies Work Group met for rest of afternoon at YSI/Sontek.
WORK GROUP MEETINGS – DECEMBER 5 and 6
Conference Planning Committee worked on review of abstracts for National Monitoring Conference and National Monitoring Work Group, for review of pilot results.
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA COASTAL WATER RESEARCH PROJECT
Steve Weisberg gave presentation on Southern California Coastal Water Research Project (SCCWRP). SCCWRP does coastal monitoring. Created a regional monitoring system (See pp presentation #5.) Steve distributed copy of Executive Summary, Southern California Bight 2003 Regional Monitoring Program. (Attachment # 1)
BUSINESS MEETING
Sixth National Monitoring Conference. Chuck reported on the Monitoring Conference. Committee has been impressed with the number of abstracts that have come from the State of New Jersey. There are nine vendors signed up so far. Lara Hughes, WEF, will send the Council the names of the vendors signed up so far.
2010 Conference. It will be very useful to determine where the next conference will be before this meeting ends. Need local sponsor as well as location. In thinking ahead to the 2010 conference we want to consider a location fairly easy to get to such as Denver, Colorado, or Salt Lake City, Utah—places that we have not been and, of course, would have people we could count on there. The northwest has not been a conference place for us—Portland, Oregon, was also mentioned. It was suggested that we should vote on Denver or the Northwest. Lara Hughes and Chuck Spooner will head up committee to look at potential facilities for the 2010 conference. Toni noted that we can get a USGS person to join the committee. May 17, 2010, would be third week in May as potential date for conference. The third full week in May is May 17-22.
Plenary speakers—we are hoping to have a short slot for the National Monitoring Network and maybe 15-20 minutes to remind people what is happening and to remind them of NMN sessions. It’s very important to have an exciting speaker for the closing plenary said Chuck. Leslie McGeorge has arranged for a NJ/EPA official and Congressman for opening plenary. Chuck has asked the Assistant Administrator of Water, EPA, to attend. Robert Hirsch contacted Kameron Onley, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Water and Science, who is interested in participating. She could do what Bob Hirsch did last year, and we want to confirm what plenary in which we will ask her to speak. We cannot confirm until we know what the CPC wants. We need to confirm where we want these speakers scheduled prior to confirming this with them on their calendars. Last year we had three keynote speakers at beginning and two keynote speakers at end of conference. WEF publication can include presentations from the 2008 meeting—a peer reviewed journal that will be online by 2009. It is possible that we may get some 2006 presentations in this WEF publication.
Elizabeth J. Fellows Award—Six nominations have been received. Linda noted that the last recipient, which is Elle Eli, should also be on the awards committee.
UPDATES/UPCOMING MEETINGS
ACWI Meeting. Toni Johnson gave update on ACWI activities and upcoming meeting for February 20 and 21, 2008. Any Council member that wants to attend is welcome although we do not pay for travel costs unless a presentation for the Council is being on the agenda. One of the most significant presentations at this ACWI meeting is a report of the National Monitoring Network and conference planning for the Sixth National Monitoring Conference. The Methods Board usually provides an update. Other subcommittees of ACWI should be providing updates. We might do a Federal roundtable on what their budgets and programs look like. Each Federal member will have an opportunity to give a report. This will be a 10 year anniversary for ACWI.
Summer Council Meeting. We need to determine date for summer meeting. The weeks of July 14 or 21 have been suggested. It makes a big difference in costs in having a host for the meeting. Jeff Ostermiller suggested that Utah may be able to host and will get back to us. Chuck suggested that we might want to meet in the DC area more often because of all the host facilities of Federal agencies. Barry Long suggested that they may be able to host a meeting at the National Park Service, Ft. Collins, Colorado. Sandy Williamson also suggested that we may meet in the State of Washington, USGS, office. This will be turned over to the Steering Committee to decide. We also have Richmond, Virginia, suggested as host.
Membership Update. Chuck said that we are looking for new State members. Some representatives and or States have alternates. Categories of membership can be adjusted under “Other” associations and industry. We should have a replacement for the National Association of State Conservation Agencies (NASCA). Jim Sadley has been named by NASCA to serve as representative. There will be vacancies in Regions 4, 5, and 9 after May. Tribal—there are numerous committees in EPA involved with tribes. Chuck hopes to have a progress report next week.
Methods and Data Comparability Board Report. Eric Vowinkel reported. Steve Wendelken is EPA Co-Chair. Dan Sullivan is Executive Secretary and does a great job with the web pages. They met in Portland, Oregon, in October. Another meeting is being planned for March 2008. (See pp presentation #6.). The CRADA was signed to support NEMI. There is a new webpage on Physical Habitat work group. The Board plans to come up with white paper to outline approach on sensors. Statistical methods is a high priority and will need to compile an inventory; need approval of Council.
Collaboration and Outreach Work Group Report. Linda Green reported for Val Connor. The work group has rewritten the C&O Fact Sheet. We will be looking at others to format the same. They are working with Lindsay Griffith to set up State Council conference calls.
Conference Planning Committee Report. The committee is just days from first cut of program on abstracts/sessions. No one is formally invited to the conference. Some people expect payment of conference fees and travel costs if given a formal invitation to attend. Gail Mallard gave a word of caution about this aspect of talking with people about coming to the conference. Need to get moderators for sessions. Call for moderators needs to go to all Council members.
Judith B. Griffin
Executive Secretary
Attendees:
Chuck Spooner
Gail Mallard
Toni Johnson
Judy Griffin
Neil Kamman
Tony Shaw
Mary Skopec
Don Dycus
Linda Green
Art Garceau
Tamim Younos
Val Connor
David Wunsch
Tracy Connell Hancock
Dan Radulescu
Jane Caffrey
Eric Vowinkel
Jeff Ostermiller
Jawed Hameedi
Peter Tennant
Leslie McGeorge
Fred Leslie
Barry Long
Jeff Schloss
Mike McDonald
Visitors:
Chris Ward, YSI/SONTEK
Steve Weisberg, Southern California Coastal Water Research Project
Geoff Brosseau, California Stormwater Quality Association
Lindsay Griffith, Brown and Caldwell Environmental Engineers & Consultants
Lara Hughes, Water Environment Federation
Maggie Craig, Tetra Tech
Rob Schweinfurth, Water Environment Federation
Sandy Williamson, U.S. Geological Survey